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Will All Ferries Be Tolled?

Posted on 29 April 2009 by Gary

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It appears from what we’re hearing in Fredericton, the government is looking at privatizing all river ferries and that means charging tolls. This includes the Westfield Ferry.

There is a meeting tonight in Cambridge Narrows to discuss the formation of the new multi-stakeholder Ferry Committee at the Cambridge-Narrows Municipal Building beginning at 7pm.

Below is a transcript from Question Period yesterday where the ferry issue was addressed. This email was forwarded by Conservative MLA Jody Carr to people fighting the ferry cuts. What do you think?

Premier announces Tolls and privatization for ALL cable ferries today in the legislature.
Premier Shawn Graham gave the mandate to the new non-profit task force in Queens and Kings county (lead by Liberal consultant Eric Allaby) to put a plan in place to establish a private cable ferry operation and set a toll fee.  He also stated that he would be treating all communities equally – therefore announcing that all cable ferries will be privatized and tolled on the lower Saint John River.  He gave no further details or timelines.
Mr. Shawn Graham
April 28, 2009
Question Period
“Over the weekend, we were able to determine that we would be establishing a
nonprofit group though the communities. It would make a determination, and an appropriate fee
would be charged for the ferry serviceŠ.
ŠToday, the Conservative Party of New Brunswick has to make a determination whether, if elected,
it is going to fund ferry services 100% in certain areas and have people in other areas, such as the
people of Campobello Island, continue to pay for those services. Are they going to be equal for
everyone? On this side, we are moving forward with a program where everyone will be treated
equally. We are working with the private sector and the nonprofit sector, and we have found an
acceptable solution.”
FULL TRANSCRIPT
Question Period
Legislative Assembly of NB
April 28, 2009
Ferries
Mr. Harrison: The chief of staff of the Premier’s Office conducted some negotiations with selected
members of the Save Our Ferries committee. The conclusion was similar to the thrust stated one
month ago, when the ferries were given a one-month stay of execution. The message was, then and
now, to privatize, seasonalize, and minimize the time for daily runs. The main new development is
that the boats will stay in the water for the season, if privatized. The department will keep the boats,
and the government will hire someone from outside the department to work with the citizens’
committee of eight people. With the Department of Transportation having the highest number of
personnel reductions, why would you hire someone from outside the department to come up with
a plan? You said you need to save money. This whole process is all about saving money. Now you
are adding costs. How much will his salary be?
L’hon. D. Landry : Je remercie le député d’en face pour la première question qui m’est posée
depuis l’automne dernier. Depuis environ un mois et demi, nous parlons de réductions et de choses
que nous devons faire pour améliorer les finances de la province. Ce que je trouve un peu bizarre
aujourd’hui, c’est de me faire poser une question, alors qu’on essaie de régler le problème.
Les parlementaires du côté de l’opposition ont eu toutes les chances de me poser des questions avant
aujourd’hui concernant la discontinuation des services des trois traversiers en question.
Aujourd’hui, grâce à tout le travail effectué par mon collègue assis à côté de moi pour nous
convaincre de continuer à offrir les services avec les gens de la région, on en arrive à une solution
très acceptable. J’ai vu le maire de Gagetown dire, hier soir, à la télévision, à quel point il était fier
de voir ce qui s’était passé au cours de la fin de semaine.
Je trouve bizarre aujourd’hui d’entendre le député d’en face me dire qu’on embauche une personne
de l’extérieur pour régler la situation. En décembre 2004, le ministreŠ
Le président : Votre temps est écoulé.
Mr. Harrison: I am glad that the minister is able to answer some questions on this. You had no real
plan for the ferries at budget time, except to cut them. Then, you extended the time that the ferry
service would operate by a month. There was still no plan at the time of that announcement. This
is an ill-conceived process, if not a plan. The Department of Transportation is not in the loop; only
the Premier’s Office is. Who is in charge? There is a minister, and there are qualified civil servants
in the department. Four supervisors of the Lower Saint John River ferry system are on the ground.
One of these people could surely coordinate the citizens’ committee and search for and monitor a
private operation.
It is clear that government is not prepared. Its planning is on the fly, going from pillar to post. Are
the four people from Gagetown and the four people from Belleisle going to be democratically
selected by the local committees?
L’hon. D. Landry : Je vous répondrai oui à cette question.
Cependant, je veux continuer mon histoire de tout à l’heure. On parle de la personne qui a été
choisie par le gouvernement pour mener à bien ce dossier. Je vous dirai que la personne choisie est
hautement qualifiée. En 2004, mon prédécesseur, le député de Lamèque-Shippagan-Miscou, qui était
ministre des Transports à l’époque, a choisi la même personne parce qu’il savait que celle-ci était
hautement qualifiée pour mener à bien les dossiers en ce qui a trait aux traversiers. S’il y a bien une
personne dans cette région qui est hautement qualifiée pour faire ce travail, c’est la personne qu’on
a choisi et à qui on a donné le poste en fin de semaine pour mener à bien ce dossier.
Mr. Harrison: Mr. Allaby may be well qualified, but I was not aware that members of your
department were not. Since a private and seasonal operation seems inevitable, are you going to
charge tolls? How are you going to collect those tolls? This will be an additional administrative cost.
Money is not being saved here. You are adding operational costs. How are you going to collect these
tolls, and what is the cost of their collection? Are you going to toll all ferries and bridges in the
province?
L’hon. D. Landry : Pour répondre à la première question, je vous dirai que le comité qui sera mis
en place sera composé de gens choisis démocratiquement. Ces gens-là seront choisis par les gens
de la collectivité. Ce sont eux qui vont choisir la façon de fonctionner. C’est pour cette raison qu’on
a mis un médiateur ou un intermédiaire en place pour faire le lien entre le gouvernement et les gens
de votre région.
Aujourd’hui, les choses commencent à bien aller et les gens voient très positivement ce qu’on
prévoit faire pour régler les problèmes. On veut que les gens de la région de Gagetown et de
Belleisle gardent leur traversier. Pendant ce temps, on dirait que les gens d’en face essaient de nous
faire la leçon. Pourquoi devrait-on continuer à offrir les services? Je vous dirai qu’on doit continuer
à offrir les services justement parce que j’ai écouté la population. Je suis un gars qui vient d’une
région rurale et j’ai écouté les gens. C’est ce qu’ils nous demandaient et c’est ce qu’on va faire. On
va continuer à opérer les traversiers.
Mr. Huntjens: My question is for the Minister of Transportation. A couple of weeks ago, we had
a meeting in your office to talk about the Campobello ferry idea. I thank you for that meeting. It was
a good meeting. We came to an understanding that perhaps the best thing to do was a feasibility
study. At that time, you told me that it would cost about $40 000 but that you could not find the
money, so you made an offer. You said that you would try to find $20 000 if I could find the other
$20 000. My question today is this: Why are you hiring a person already on government staff to
manage something that your department should manage? Why do you not save that money and make
it available for the feasibility study?
Hon. S. Graham: To be very clear, as a government, we have always said that the Department of
Transportation would not be operating the ferries but we would work with the communities to find
a viable solution. Over the weekend, we were able to determine that we would be establishing a
nonprofit group though the communities. It would make a determination, and an appropriate fee
would be charged for the ferry service. It is an arrangement that seems to be beneficial to all people
involved in the process.
What we have today, though, is an opposition that seems to be more concerned about the individuals
engaged in this process. The Department of Transportation does not have the expertise to set up a
nonprofit group to work with the community stakeholders for the transfer of equipment, and this is
not in the department’s core mandate. That is why we felt it was imperative to see this implemented
in a timely fashion. We want to work with the groups. There will be expertise given from the
Department of Transportation. Setting up a nonprofit agency, a liasion between the municipalities,
is the route that will expedite the process.
Mr. Speaker: Time, Mr. Premier.
Mr. Huntjens: This is unbelievable. The Department of Transportation does not have anyone who
is qualified to set up a system to operate the ferries and manage the committee. That is unbelievable.
This Premier is telling us: We are doing everything perfectly. However, first, they take all the
services away, and now they are giving a smidgen back and think they are doing a great job.
My question is still to the minister: Why are they hiring someone who is already on the payroll to
do this committee work when they cannot afford to pay for the survey for the people of Campobello
Island?
Hon. S. Graham: We have been able to work to find a solution where the government is able to
invest in its core services and, as I said, the nonprofit sector is going to be able to step up and work
in conjunction with the communities.
The real question remains today. The Leader of the Opposition has made a commitment that, if
elected, the Conservatives will restore a government-funded and government-run operation on those
ferries. However the people of Campobello today have a private-sector operator in place, and a fee
is charged for that service. There is irony in the question that is being asked today by the member
opposite. What we are setting up today is similar to a system that is being operated in his region.
Why is he not standing up and asking his leader for a free service, which his leader has committed
to in other parts of the province?
Mr. Huntjens: Very, very interesting information. First of all, the Campobello Island ferry is only
a summer service that is mostly for tourists. Second, you are already admitting that you are going
to be charging for the ferry services that were previously part of our highway system.
You can sit there and laugh your smug face off, but the people of Gagetown will tell you something
different. They are not pleased with what you have done, and they are not pleased with the route you
are taking, which makes them pay for part of the highway service.
Hon. S. Graham: There is only one taxpayer in the province, and the people of Campobello today
pay for that service, similar to the people on Grand Manan, who pay to utilize a ferry. What we have
done is find an acceptable arrangement with the communities.
Today, the Conservative Party of New Brunswick has to make a determination whether, if elected,
it is going to fund ferry services 100% in certain areas and have people in other areas, such as the
people of Campobello Island, continue to pay for those services. Are they going to be equal for
everyone? On this side, we are moving forward with a program where everyone will be treated
equally. We are working with the private sector and the nonprofit sector, and we have found an
acceptable solution. What is unacceptable today is having the Tory Party all over the map on its
position.
Mr. Holder: The Premier has made it very clear today that he is going to treat everybody equally,
so now we have a situation in Gagetown and Belleisle where these people are potentially going to
be paying a toll and the ferry is going to be operated by some private organization-we do not know
what yet. My question to the Minister of Transportation is this: Will he stand up and tell us
unequivocally that the people of Hampstead, Westfield, Gondola Point, Millidgeville, and
Kennebecasis Island will not pay a toll in the future?
L’hon. D. Landry : Étant donné qu’on a assez de difficulté à aborder les problèmes auxquels nous
sommes aux prises, pour ce qui va arriver au cours des années suivantes, je pourrai répondre à ces
questions en temps opportun.
Pour répondre à la question de mon collègue d’en face, si vous vous en rappelez, lors d’une réunion,
qui a quand même été très productive, j’avais demandé si vous aviez parlé à vos collègues du
fédéral. Avez-vous fait votre devoir de ce côté-là? C’est une réponse que j’aimerais recevoir.
Mr. Holder: The minister had a chance to answer the question from the member for Charlotte-
Campobello, but he chose to let the Premier answer it for him. I will ask my question again: Will
the people who use those cable ferries be assured that they will not be paying a toll in Millidgeville,
Westfield, Gondola Point, Kennebecasis Island, and Evandale?
L’hon. D. Landry : Cela me fait plaisir de répondre de nouveau à cette question. Aujourd’hui, on
est en train de parler des traversiers d’Hampton, de Belleisle et de Gagetown. Les autres traversiers
ne sont aucunement sous la loupe. Quand viendra le temps de répondre à cette question, je le ferai
en temps et lieu.
Mr. Holder: We are not getting an answer on that today, so all bets are off next year for those other
ferries. My question is on the Hampstead ferry. Where is that asset sitting right now? Where is that
cable ferry sitting right now? It is not on its run; it is a seasonal ferry. We have been very committed
to putting it back on if we are elected. I want to know where it is. Is it going to be sent to a junkyard?
Is it going to be sold, or can we look for some other solution for that cable ferry?
L’hon. D. Landry : Pour répondre à cette question, il y a un des trois traversiers qui ne sera pas en
service pendant la saison qui vient. On n’a pas vraiment décidé ce que nous allons faire avec ce
traversier, mais il fera probablement partie des autres solutions.
Rien de nouveau se passe aujourd’hui. La seule chose qui est nouvelle, c’est que j’ai écouté les gens
de ces régions très attentivement. Ma porte a toujours été ouverte pour eux. En entendant les
commentaires que le maire de Gagetown a faits hier, il semblerait que la voie et la décision que nous
avons prises sont celles qui devaient l’être. On a écouté la population, et je pense que ces gens nous
ont félicités de l’avoir fait. Les gens de l’opposition ne semblent pas être contents lorsqu’on arrive
à une solution. Il faudrait qu’ils se fassent une idée. Vendredi dernier, les parlementaires du côté de
l’opposition ont eu la chance de me poser desŠ
Mr. Speaker: The time for question period is now over.

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Reprieve for Ferries

Posted on 27 April 2009 by Gary

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The Gagetown and Belleisle ferries will continue operating past the end of the month. The government was planning on cutting the service on April 30th. But the Hampstead ferry is gone for good and the other two ferries will be operated privately by a third party on behalf of the community. That means tolls will likely be charged. Gagetown Mayor Randy Smith said on a CBC Radio interview this morning that this agreement is another step forward. He said the comunity is thrilled by this new turn of events, even though they still don’t know all the details including if the ferry will operate year round. He warns that if a private company can make money in a small economy like Gagetown, it’s likely the same model will be applied for the Westfield Ferry.  Below is the news release from the province.

Province to provide opportunity for continuation of ferry services in Belleisle Bay and Village of Gagetown (09/04/27)

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April 27, 2009

FREDERICTON (CNB) – The provincial government will work with community stakeholders to provide, through a third party, an opportunity for the continuation of ferry services in Belleisle Bay and the Village of Gagetown, Transportation Minister Denis Landry announced today.

“I think we have an excellent solution here today, one that respects the need for government to exercise restraint in difficult times while maintaining a service that these communities value,” said Landry. “I want to thank the community leaders for coming to the table, and I particularly want to thank local MLA Eugene McGinley for his key role in facilitating this solution.”

Landry announced that while the provincial government is still getting out of the ferry business in the two communities, it is appointing Eric Allaby, former member of the legislative assembly for Fundy Isles, to work on the issue. Allaby will work with stakeholders on behalf of the Department of Transportation to facilitate the continuation of ferry services in the two communities.

“Eric is an excellent choice to oversee this process,” said Landry. “Having represented, for 19 years, communities that depend on ferries, he understands this issue well. I am confident that he will be able to deliver a positive outcome.”

Allaby will work with community stakeholders to set up a locally controlled group to oversee operation of the ferries. At the same time, he and stakeholders will identify a suitable contractor to operate the ferry service.

To date, three potential contractors – Barry Armstrong, of Armstrong Management Solutions Inc., of Chipman, East Coast Ferries Ltd., of Deer Island, and Tim Tupper, of Jemseg – have come forward to express interest. Other interested parties would also be considered. A proponent will be chosen to operate the ferries based on financial and technical merit.

The two ferries and other relevant and related assets will be transferred from the government to the community-based group upon its establishment, and the contractor will begin operating the ferries on its behalf. The government will operate the two ferries daily, from 6 a.m. to 11 p.m., until the community-based group is in place.

As previously announced, the seasonal ferry in Hampstead will not resume operation.

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Future of Ferries still Foggy – Former Liberal Cabinet Minister Warns Westfield May Be Next to Go

Posted on 26 April 2009 by Gary

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As this issue of the newspaper hits the streets there are only a few days of life left for the Gagetown, Hampstead and Belleisle ferries. The provincial government extended the run for a month but unless something has changed in the last few days, the almost two hundred year old tradition of a river ferry in Gagetown is coming to an end.

The government announced in the budget it was cutting these services to save 1.5 million dollars. Despite protests and rallies, the minister and the premier say they are not changing their minds. Supporters of the ferries have made it clear they aren’t backing down either.

They received a boost at the last Village of Gagetown Council Meeting when Conservative Opposition Leader David Alward pledged to reverse the Liberal government’s decision to scrap the ferries, if he’s elected premier in 2010.

Former Liberal Cabinet Minister and Gagetown native, Vaughn Blaney says losing the ferry is like having a rug pulled out from under you. “It’s very difficult for me to believe that the ferry of the Shiretown would be gone,” says Blaney. “But I have a sense that this is the tip of the iceberg. If their reasons are economical because of the age of them, (ferries) well you better hang on to Westfield and Evandale and right on around.” Blaney sees this fight as a wake-up call for all of rural New Brunswick. “In the last depression it was rural New Brunswick who fed the fat cats in the urban area and if this whole country goes down the tube, it’ll be rural New Brunswick again that they’ll be coming to and saying please feed us, please get us out of this.” Blaney introduced himself at a recent Gagetown rally to save the ferries as a P.O.L. – Pissed Off Liberal.

At the same rally, Jean-Frances & Dick Mann drove all the way from Bathurst to voice their opposition to the government decision. They say the province should be promoting rural NB and the ferries are part of the whole fabric of the way people live, you just can’t rip it apart.

“This is just the first, watch out Westfield and Gondola Point,” warns Queenstown resident Anne Fawcett. She’s convinced this is just the beginning of the end for all river ferries. She fears this government decision may throw her into bankruptcy. “I’m partially disabled and can’t teach anymore,” she says. “Last summer I got a job as a deckhand on the Hampstead ferry and loved it. It was best job I ever had.”

The fight over ferry service has brought these river communities together like never before. Jemseg, Cambridge Narrows, Hampstead, Queenstown, Upper Gagetown are all working together along with other communities affected by the Belleisle ferry closure. They’ve already organized rallies at home and in Frederiction, collected names on petitions and launched letter writing campaigns. They’re determined to continue fighting to the end. “We’re just going to fight right to the last day,” says Gagetown farmer Wilf Hiscock. “We’re going to try and keep the ferry. It’s our road. It’s our bridge. We’re just not going to turn belly up. We’re going to keep fighting because we’re one big community here and this has brought everyone closer together than ever before.”

“We will not let them take it if we have to sit on the ferry all summer.”

Gagetown councillor and United Church Minister, Rev. Robert McDowell is still hoping the Graham government will change its mind and maintain the service but if it doesn’t he says they’ll insist the infrastructure remain in place. If they try to remove it he says they will defend it and do what they need to do to preserve it, including civil disobedience. “We’ll plan on having all night vigils at the ferry,” says McDowell. ” We’ll have someone sit there all night because I suspect if they do come to take the ferry it’ll be in the dark because they know they wouldn’t be able to do it during the day.”

McDowell says they’re looking at all the options in this fight including taking legal against the province but he wasn’t able to give any details just yet. He says the government did this with the intent of sweeping the economy of these little communities away and that, he says, is immoral.

The Gagetown, Hampstead and Belleisle ferries are due to stop running for good at the end of April.

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River Valley Rambler by Gary Mittelholtz

Posted on 26 April 2009 by Gary

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It’s the cutting season. No, I’m not talking about grass although the whine of lawn mowers will soon be echoing around the river valley. The cuts I’m referring to are to ferries and to the CBC. They’re both New Brunswick institutions that have been around for many years and their demise is going to affect us all.

The provincial government decided in its budget to end river ferry service in Gagetown, Hampstead and Belleisle. There have been letters printed and stories written about the governments position and the fight to retain the services in this paper and others for weeks now. The province says it can’t afford to keep the ferries operating because not enough people use them and they’ll soon need to be replaced at a great cost. The people from Gagetown, Queenstown, Hampstead and up and down the river valley and even right across the country argue they can’t drop the ferry service because it would mean the end of these communities. They say the ferries are their lifeblood. It’s what connects them, keeps the economy going, attracts tourists to the region and serves them in times of need like in a medical emergency. These are all sound reasons to keep the ferries and I’m not going to repeat them all here. In my mind the important thing to remember is these ferries are basically like public roads. If a road became impassable, like many around here almost have this spring due to potholes, you’d expect the government to patch and fix them, not close them forever. These ferries are exactly the same.

Years ago previous governments seemed to lose interest in another New Brunswick institution, the covered bridge. They weren’t being maintained properly and if they burnt down or crumbled, the government was quick to replace them with a modern bridge. Thankfully that attitude has changed now and governments and most New Brunswickers treasure our covered bridge heritage and do what they can to protect them. It would be wrong for this government to toss away our ferry heritage because the boats are too old or too expensive to maintain. That’s so short sighted.

The economic crisis facing our government and all of us is also the reason behind the cuts at CBC Radio and TV. The public broadcaster has a 171 million dollar deficit this year. Many blame the federal government for not coughing up more money for the crown corporation. That may be true but I blame CBC management for the direction these cuts are taking. We still don’t know the exact numbers of jobs that will disappear but in the worst case scenario it will dramatically change CBC Radio service in New Brunswick’s two largest cities. Both Saint John and Moncton could lose up to half of their radio staff. These are the producers and journalists who make the local programs listeners have depended on for years. CBC Radio in Saint John just celebrated its 30th anniversary in the city. If the station loses between 4 and 8 of its radio staff, it’ll be the end of the kind of CBC Radio listeners have known since the 1970s. This is personal for me too because I worked there for many years and I know all the people who may be affected.

If the CBC goes ahead with its plan to change Saint John and Moncton from small stations to bureaus, the local programming will be a far cry from what it’s been. And even when the economy improves and CBC regains its funding, the cuts to these services will never be restored. Once they’re gone, they’re gone for good. Saint John and Moncton will forever be mere bureaus to Fredericton and Halifax where much of the ‘local’ programming will originate. I fear this is a misguided CBC decision to eliminate small station status to cities like Saint John, Moncton, Sydney, Sudbury and Thunder Bay. In my mind, like cutting the ferries, this is short sighted and just wrong.

Without ferry service these river communities will become just a shadow of their former selves. And without the reporters and journalists, the ability to tell our own local stories will be greatly diminished. In a province where one company owns most of the newspapers and where private radio and television broadcasters are also cutting back and struggling to produce local content, weakening the independent voice of the CBC would be a loss and a shame.

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